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david pecker. we'll be right back how would really happened sunday at nine on cnn. >> you know, when i take the bike out like this, all my stress is just melt away. >> i hear that is bad. boy can fix anything yeah. >> tough day at work, nice cruises sorts. >> you write out when i'm writing, i'm not even thinking about my painful cavity he shouldn't ignore it. and every time i get stressed about having to pay my bills hop. on the bike, man, i'll come on. >> you got to pay your bills. >> you don't have to worry about anything when you're protected by america's number one motorcycle insurer? >> well, you definitely do those things aren't related so that is a vibrating pain at morgan stanley old-school hard work meets ball new thinking to help you see untapped possibilities and relax leslie, work with you to make them real okay. yeah, we got orders coming in, starting a business is never easy. a star near eight months pregnant that's a different story. sorry. >> i couldn't slow down. we were starting a
david pecker. we'll be right back how would really happened sunday at nine on cnn. >> you know, when i take the bike out like this, all my stress is just melt away. >> i hear that is bad. boy can fix anything yeah. >> tough day at work, nice cruises sorts. >> you write out when i'm writing, i'm not even thinking about my painful cavity he shouldn't ignore it. and every time i get stressed about having to pay my bills hop. on the bike, man, i'll come on. >> you got...
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david pecker said, yes, it was later david pecker testified, we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt that campaign prosecutors are going to say, look, the motive was campaign donald trump's team is going to say well, there was also a personal motive here for donald trump's. so look for that on cross now eventually they enter into a contract with karen mcdougal, ami, david pecker enters into a contract that donald trump himself was not part of. and david pecker said the purpose of that agreement was to disguise the true nature of the contract. they didn't want the public learning about karen mcdougal's allegations. now that brings us to sort of between chapter two and chapter three. the big thing that happens is the access hollywood tape came out and the jury's not seeing that tape, but they've learned about it. this is where donald trump gets caught on camera talking about, you can grab them by the blank, et cetera. we remember that tape and pecker said, when that takes it came out, it was very embarrassing, very damaging. again, to the campaign importan
david pecker said, yes, it was later david pecker testified, we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt that campaign prosecutors are going to say, look, the motive was campaign donald trump's team is going to say well, there was also a personal motive here for donald trump's. so look for that on cross now eventually they enter into a contract with karen mcdougal, ami, david pecker enters into a contract that donald trump himself was not part of. and david pecker...
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barry, i'm wondering, i'm a, you know, david pecker obviously. well, you worked with the enquirer for a long time. you had some involvement with that doorman's story. how do you what do you make of him as a witness? >> well, listen, i was there anderson for 17 years. i was actually the first editorial higher for david pecker back in 1999 it's certainly troubling to be to be watching this unfold in thinking back to the great years of breaking so many great stories, john edwards, tiger woods jesse jackson's paternity of a child i was i left the inquire after the doorman's story two months before the karen mcdougal story, before they got involved with that. and the last trump's story that i did work on was the doorman's story and david pecker was absolutely right. had that story turned out to be true, and he published it, it would have been a mega sale it might have sold millions of copies. >> did you know that he was going to kill it if it turned out, regardless of what it turned out. well, listen, i mean, i remember going back to 2010 when i knew
barry, i'm wondering, i'm a, you know, david pecker obviously. well, you worked with the enquirer for a long time. you had some involvement with that doorman's story. how do you what do you make of him as a witness? >> well, listen, i was there anderson for 17 years. i was actually the first editorial higher for david pecker back in 1999 it's certainly troubling to be to be watching this unfold in thinking back to the great years of breaking so many great stories, john edwards, tiger...
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they're making the connection the david pecker and donald trump were friends david pecker, one point said, the defense attorneys are making the argument. yes. no, no, no, no. the prosecutor prosecutes because they wanted to say david pecker wouldn't be doing this to hurt donald trump. he liked it and he said at one point, i felt that donald trump was my mentor. he helped me throughout my career. i still consider them close even though we haven't spoken. i still consider him a friend. so trump's attorney or the defense attorney, emile bove, is asking you a series of questions since right now, if david pecker, the witness, about how prosecutors in fact prepared pecker to give, quote, consistent testimony. >> every time he's testified, david chatterley and some very interesting testimony not long ago this afternoon, we're david pecker recalled a phone conversation. he had with trump's white house team at the time according to mr. packer, hope hicks, and sarah huckabee sanders sara was the communications director or the press secretary, and hope x was a special assistant to the president
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he also tried to catch david pecker in some inconsistencies in here his testimony, david pecker has been cooperating with prosecutors, the federal prosecutors and the district attorney's office for several years now. and so they were focusing on remember, the testimony about a january 2017 meeting at trump tower that david pecker walked into all donald trump was finishing up a meeting with some of with the f then cia director james comey and others and during this meeting is when david pecker testified that there was that he had a conversation so what donald trump donald trump thanked him for taking care of the doorman's story in the karen mcdougal story so donald trump's attorneys pressed him on notes from previous interview had given with investigators. and in that interview notes he said, according to the fbi's nodes, that david pecker told them that donald trump did not express any gratitude david pecker dug in on that today saying that the fbi knows were wrong and that his testimony over the past few days is that correct accurate testimony? so a lot of back and forth over different
he also tried to catch david pecker in some inconsistencies in here his testimony, david pecker has been cooperating with prosecutors, the federal prosecutors and the district attorney's office for several years now. and so they were focusing on remember, the testimony about a january 2017 meeting at trump tower that david pecker walked into all donald trump was finishing up a meeting with some of with the f then cia director james comey and others and during this meeting is when david pecker...
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with david pecker for this favorable treatment? >> i think in most campaigns you don't see that it may be the case that a newspaper or media outlet will endorse a particular candidate. but i don't think we've ever seen a situation where a particular candidate goes to the outlet and negotiates with them for favorable treatment of his campaign and unfavorable treatment of his opponents. so that's unusual and the way the prosecution has framed yet this is essentially a psap to the trump campaign as though it were a contribution in kight. and i think that's a theory of the case, whether or not the jurors by this as a contribution, i think is a different story, but that seems to be where the prosecution is taking that this is a coordinated effort. it is unusual and extraordinary and it essentially amounts to the kinds of influence peddling that we typically don't see between the media and a campaign. >> but the money is the core of it, isn't it? i mean, the fact that yeah. i mean, that's just to me the strongest ground that the prosecut
with david pecker for this favorable treatment? >> i think in most campaigns you don't see that it may be the case that a newspaper or media outlet will endorse a particular candidate. but i don't think we've ever seen a situation where a particular candidate goes to the outlet and negotiates with them for favorable treatment of his campaign and unfavorable treatment of his opponents. so that's unusual and the way the prosecution has framed yet this is essentially a psap to the trump...
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they got david pecker to say michael cohen is prone to exaggeration. and so they're going to do that by the way, with a lot of other witnesses. if kellyanne conway takes the stand i bet she has negative things to say about michael cohen. maybe hope hicks two. and what you do as a defense lawyer, not my profession, ards, but i've seen enough good ones inaction when it comes down for closing go folks. their own witnesses, the first guy they put in front of you, david pecker, said that their star witness is prone to exaggeration if you find that he exactly related to this case is over. so that's a really smart and effective tactic like michael cohen can be restored as the star witness so easily because people forget or maybe don't forget that he pled guilty to the same scheme that trump is now being put on trial for and people generally as a defense lawyer do not plead guilty to things they didn't do. that plea is locked in. he took a three-year jail sentence for the acts that he claimed in open court when he entered his plea. i did this at the direction
they got david pecker to say michael cohen is prone to exaggeration. and so they're going to do that by the way, with a lot of other witnesses. if kellyanne conway takes the stand i bet she has negative things to say about michael cohen. maybe hope hicks two. and what you do as a defense lawyer, not my profession, ards, but i've seen enough good ones inaction when it comes down for closing go folks. their own witnesses, the first guy they put in front of you, david pecker, said that their star...
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and david pecker is testimony. i think it will come out later on thursday, but the idea that donald trump had to gross up michael cohen in order to make him whole for the payments because he is actually bursting him for what was being classified as payments for legal services, even though there had been no legal services rendered. so that's the given multi here. and i think what the prosecution is trying to show and there's a lot of discussion of donald trump's hands and all of this is that he's very much a micro manager. he is taking really close looks at what the money is, where the money is going to whom it is going and this is just david pecker and michael cohen doing his bidding, but he is the mastermind, essentially the puppet master, and they are simply the puppets jeff, the prosecutor questioning david pecker, noted today in court that the one in the election statutes, the case is based on does have a conspiracy provision. >> what does that say to you about the way that the prosecution is trying to frame we
and david pecker is testimony. i think it will come out later on thursday, but the idea that donald trump had to gross up michael cohen in order to make him whole for the payments because he is actually bursting him for what was being classified as payments for legal services, even though there had been no legal services rendered. so that's the given multi here. and i think what the prosecution is trying to show and there's a lot of discussion of donald trump's hands and all of this is that...
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and the stories david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is dreaming? >> usually cheerful and chipper through this process, like he laughs sometimes very loudly, which good for him? like he's not the one on trial but it is his longtime friend. you know, they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again, that trump was very good for his business. >> he committed i needed trump to sell magazines and that's part of why he made this deal with trump during the 2016 campaign. >> i keep obsessing of what must be going through down from his mind, sitting there behind this defense desk watching his former sort of friend, who is a keeper of probably a lot more secrets about him, then he has lead on what must be going through donald trump's mind. i mean, nothing is is when donald trump became president. >> i mean, this was someone who had a lot of dirt on donald trump and knew a lot about him and
and the stories david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is dreaming? >> usually cheerful and chipper through this process, like he laughs sometimes very loudly, which good for him? like he's not the one on trial but it is his longtime friend. you know, they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again, that trump was very good for his...
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on cross-examination of david pecker today? >> the core of his he's a vehicle by the prosecution to set the stage and just talk about this august 2015 meeting in which this catch and kill conspiracy as the prosecution has laid it out, began where he met with donald trump and michael cohen. so they were trying to go back to that meeting and suggests that it was just like businesses usual, it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer. so aiml beauvais want to trump's defense lawyers had asked pecker on the stan i want you i want to stick with the august 2015 trump tower meeting. pecker says yes, beauvais says, at that meeting, the concept of catch-and-kill was not discussed, correct? pecker said that's correct but they asked and then there was no discussion of a financial dimension to any agreement at that meeting, correct? pecker said, yes, that's correct. so trying to say that there was no blatant conversation about a catch and kill and that i'm going to buy the deals now on redirect with the prosecution, they
on cross-examination of david pecker today? >> the core of his he's a vehicle by the prosecution to set the stage and just talk about this august 2015 meeting in which this catch and kill conspiracy as the prosecution has laid it out, began where he met with donald trump and michael cohen. so they were trying to go back to that meeting and suggests that it was just like businesses usual, it was standard operating procedure for the national enquirer. so aiml beauvais want to trump's...
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that's why david pecker, zero to sort of bolster him up. but that doesn't give donald trump the right to do what he is doing with that gag order, fight it out in the courtroom. let your tuner attorneys do their job, miss the were you surprised, judge merchan hasn't rendered an immediate decision on the gag order violations. yeah. >> i wasn't surprised because he's got to go through each individual instance, the prosecution is alleging and make a determination about whether or not that violates at an also think about what's the penalty going to be to send a message but not go too far. so i think we're having decision was what i would've expected. >> all right. misty marris, jeremy saland. thank you. so both you pecker described the tactics of quote, checkbook journalism and catch and kill. just how often that's used and why it's so specific to this case, that's next what is it about the titanic? >> why are we so obsessed with this ship every piece of evidence tells a story 50 years later? it's still leading people to her death. >> this speci
that's why david pecker, zero to sort of bolster him up. but that doesn't give donald trump the right to do what he is doing with that gag order, fight it out in the courtroom. let your tuner attorneys do their job, miss the were you surprised, judge merchan hasn't rendered an immediate decision on the gag order violations. yeah. >> i wasn't surprised because he's got to go through each individual instance, the prosecution is alleging and make a determination about whether or not that...
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i think the other thing is that david pecker really explained the insides of the scheme. in other words, he explained that why it is that the national enquirer was paying money for the doorman scheme. he was paying money for the karen mcdougal scheme but at some point they said, you we're done being the bank. we are no longer sort of your bank for paying off these people in the caching kill& that explains why it is that michael cohen had to take out this home equity loan that we were hearing about just as the testimony was ending today and explain that difference. now, there's why it is that the national enquirer wasn't paying for this third and final scheme with respect to stormy daniels, but it had to be paid for by michael cohen. so i think that is a very important new detail that we heard that helped flesh out the scheme that we, the basics of which we knew about your book breaks down the very colorful cast of characters in this specific case, but not necessarily trump's assisted rhona graff and michael cohen's banker, gary farro. these lower profile voices set up the
i think the other thing is that david pecker really explained the insides of the scheme. in other words, he explained that why it is that the national enquirer was paying money for the doorman scheme. he was paying money for the karen mcdougal scheme but at some point they said, you we're done being the bank. we are no longer sort of your bank for paying off these people in the caching kill& that explains why it is that michael cohen had to take out this home equity loan that we were...
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are unlawful david pecker says, yes. steinglass says, did either you or ami ever report to the federal election commission that ami had made a donation to of care, a payment to karen mcdougal. pecker says, we did not sign. glas says, why did ami and make this purchase of karen mcdougal story? pecker says, we purchased a story so it won't be published by any or other organization steinglass asked why did you not want it to be published by any other organization? pecker says, i didn't want we didn't want the story to embarrass mr. trump or embarrassed or hurt that campaign? hurt the campaign. bradley, first to you, why that focus, how much damage did it do to trump as we approach cross this morning yeah no that. >> was the meat and bones of the prosecution's case in terms the idea that this was all tied to the campaign, that this wasn't a personal thing that wasn't what rudy giuliani is to talk about it. oh, was just disparate as family the embarrassment. >> no the entire criminal congruent between ami and donald trump thr
are unlawful david pecker says, yes. steinglass says, did either you or ami ever report to the federal election commission that ami had made a donation to of care, a payment to karen mcdougal. pecker says, we did not sign. glas says, why did ami and make this purchase of karen mcdougal story? pecker says, we purchased a story so it won't be published by any or other organization steinglass asked why did you not want it to be published by any other organization? pecker says, i didn't want we...
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trump and david pecker the ceo of the national enquirer's, an individual named david pecker well, david, his good friends with donald trump. >> they have a friendship that goes back for many years. in fact, the national enquirer has endorsed donald trump, has said he must be president i had nothing to do with the national enquirer story. and frankly, i hope it's not true because it's pretty bad so ted cruz got one thing wrong in the extended version of those comments, which was he implied it was roger stone who is acting as the emissary with david pecker and donald trump, obviously as we now know, and we'll hear from him on the witness stand. >> it was my phil cohen who is doing all of this. >> but what ted cruz got closer to than really anyone did at that time was that relationship between the two of them and it then it was not a known entity, a known quantity like it is now, like we saw the details coming out and you saw donald trump also doing other interviews about the claim that ted cruz is father was fault with lee harvey oswald trump would go on tv and say, well, the national enq
trump and david pecker the ceo of the national enquirer's, an individual named david pecker well, david, his good friends with donald trump. >> they have a friendship that goes back for many years. in fact, the national enquirer has endorsed donald trump, has said he must be president i had nothing to do with the national enquirer story. and frankly, i hope it's not true because it's pretty bad so ted cruz got one thing wrong in the extended version of those comments, which was he implied...
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and that story is david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is draining? usually cheerful and chipper through this process. >> like laughs, sometimes very loudly, which good for him, like he's not the one on trial. >> but it is his longtime friend. >> they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again that trump was very good for his business. >> he he admitted i needed trump to sell magazines. >> and that's part of why he made this deal with trump during the 2016 campaign. >> i keep obsessing of what must be going through down from his mind, sitting there behind this defense desk watching his former sort of friend, who is a keeper of probably a lot more secrets about him then he has lead on what must be going through don trump's mind. i mean, nothing is is when donald trump became president, i mean, this was someone who had a lot of dirt on donald trump and knew a lot about him and had a
and that story is david pecker were telling. we're not stories about a likable person. >> how does david pecker come off on the stand to the jury? do you think i mean, what does he is draining? usually cheerful and chipper through this process. >> like laughs, sometimes very loudly, which good for him, like he's not the one on trial. >> but it is his longtime friend. >> they've been friends for decades. he he concedes very cheerfully, again that trump was very good for...
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and david pecker. so we'll see if we could see a second witness begin to take the stand even tomorrow afternoon, even better. >> one of the questions one of the first questions they asked for comments was so ami isn't a charity organization, is you're making a profit off of all of this really making him seem like this is about greed and that's all to get the jury thinking that they don't like this person. >> yeah. important point. it was interesting. i thought that kaitlyn that david pecker testified about a call with two top white house staffers at the time who picks and sarah huckabee sanders would that reveal as someone who covered the white house and remembers sarah sanders being at the white house briefing room where obviously all three of us have sat at one point, she had to deny allegations about karen mcdougal citing conversations that she had with donald trump to hear that review still today that there was a call with the national enquirer tabloid king, hope hicks and sarah sanders while they
and david pecker. so we'll see if we could see a second witness begin to take the stand even tomorrow afternoon, even better. >> one of the questions one of the first questions they asked for comments was so ami isn't a charity organization, is you're making a profit off of all of this really making him seem like this is about greed and that's all to get the jury thinking that they don't like this person. >> yeah. important point. it was interesting. i thought that kaitlyn that...
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but david pecker walks in and he says that donald trump tells a joke, hey, this is david pecker. he's the chairman of the national enquirer, and he probably knows more than all of you in here. what got the laugh was then pecker said the other gentlemen, other and they didn't find it funny that nobody but trump's, but trump from smiled and the jurors and the court, those are in the court and the courtroom, how to laugh as well. so it was a funny moment. it was really the only time today that donald trump actually reacted to the testimony. i think we've seen throughout pecker's testimony, he really has tried not to react. >> he has been very controlled if he's not allegedly nodding off. >> yes. >> that's what that's what here. but i'll also say what came out today, which was important is not just that this was done allegedly for other people, but that there was a relationship with the enquirer, david pecker is about far back as 1990 h's. we'll call it fixing these stories far before for donald trump was the political icon. so there's, there's a history here. but to be clear, just b
but david pecker walks in and he says that donald trump tells a joke, hey, this is david pecker. he's the chairman of the national enquirer, and he probably knows more than all of you in here. what got the laugh was then pecker said the other gentlemen, other and they didn't find it funny that nobody but trump's, but trump from smiled and the jurors and the court, those are in the court and the courtroom, how to laugh as well. so it was a funny moment. it was really the only time today that...
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pecker helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable. so mendel, he was engaging in these catching kill schemes and when we go into a supermarket used to see the national enquirer be like, oh, my god. and now we know how that gets to be the front page of the paper. you got the information that this is exactly how it worked out when it came to donald trump and when it came to michael cohen. and this is something that i think the jury in plain terms, are able to digest and they don't know how to apply this information. but shortly after closing arguments and though extra read back to get more of his testimony, read back, there'll be able to put it all toge
pecker helped more. >> david pecker definitely helped the prosecution out because they laid out david pecker hur laid out the foundation. he gave us the background information, and he also changed the narrative. this is not just hush money case. we're talking about the purpose of this money. of killing di stories. what's that help this campaign? and you're hearing it from someone that i think was relatable to this jury. i think the jury's going to find him credible, find, and believable....
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so the last question asked of david pecker today was, does he believe trump does david pecker believes that donald trump cares about his family, right? there have been a lot of questions about why trump would do these things. was it to protect his family or as pecker said? was it for the campaign, but the last question, does trump care about his family? pecker replies, quote, of of course i do think that cares about his family. that surprised you very much so because trump thinks about trump and his family clearly throughout all this is almost been window the dressing just so it makes him look like he's a family guy, but his focus is always been what's best for me. >> that's why he picks the pupil who works with and that's why he's been doing when he just doing with the power play. so the family for politician, obviously it's unnecessary optic to have but his feeling towards them. no, they're just tools for him to advance his own cause and that moment surprised you mean bernardo at the end of the testimony of david pecker and i guess it's in a sense, it's hard to put it together hi the
so the last question asked of david pecker today was, does he believe trump does david pecker believes that donald trump cares about his family, right? there have been a lot of questions about why trump would do these things. was it to protect his family or as pecker said? was it for the campaign, but the last question, does trump care about his family? pecker replies, quote, of of course i do think that cares about his family. that surprised you very much so because trump thinks about trump...
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let's start now with the testimony of david pecker. of course, explain why prosecutors called him as their first went. sure. and there's no science briana as to why you'd ever put a witness on you want someone who's palling and got something to say and david pecker is exactly that in this case, he's a former publisher of the national enquirer and was said to be in acknowledged being involved in an effort to stop this embarrassing conduct about foreign president trump from getting public ahead of the 2016 election. now there's a long history of the national enquirer number one, pushing out stories that were very favorable to the former president and very critical of his opponents. and that's ted cruz there, senator from texas. he was running against at the time a number of critical articles of hillary clinton senator at the first lady as well and so that's sort of the national enquirer's role in all of this. and david pecker had a hand in it explain why he's crucial enough that they're calling him considering there is a risk here, which
let's start now with the testimony of david pecker. of course, explain why prosecutors called him as their first went. sure. and there's no science briana as to why you'd ever put a witness on you want someone who's palling and got something to say and david pecker is exactly that in this case, he's a former publisher of the national enquirer and was said to be in acknowledged being involved in an effort to stop this embarrassing conduct about foreign president trump from getting public ahead...
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we're talking about david pecker. amanda has been friends with donald trump's since the 80s, sitting right across from him in in this dan, just feet away from the former president as he stares him down, giving these dirty details about this catch and kill scheme in full detail. that is what we are expecting more for up tomorrow. and that all started of course, as we've learned from the testimony in august 20 when they made that deal between trump, michael cohen, and david pecker about being eyes and the ears of a campaign and how they were going to find the stories that were negative about trump are salacious about trump, bury them and promote stories that were positive ahead of that campaign. they went into detail about that trump tower doorman who had a story about a woman who claimed that she fathered a child or he fathered a child of her and then before court wrapped up and david pecker was done for the day they got into the details of but another playboy playmate, karen mcdougal, who of course alleged affair a wi
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today. >> so david pecker will be back on the stand. he will be continuing with cross-examinati on. you are expecting that the prosecution to redirect after that, correct absolutely. >> yeah. of course. they get that option before we even maybe see who the next witness is redirected fact, it's very unclear, actually it david pecker will finish today. i mean, it is a full court today, so it's very likely he will, but we don't really quite know the timing just yet but we are waiting to see, like you said, sarah, who is the next witness, is it someone who deals with the accounting inside ami or within the trump organization or is it michael cohen, another quite arguably the star witness for the prosecution so we'll have to wait and see. of course, we don't know because they are not giving away that witness lists or rather the order of that witness list. this ahead of time because of the fear that donald trump will post about them on social media and such. so we'll standby all right. >> brand jin grass standing by for court to resume. appre
today. >> so david pecker will be back on the stand. he will be continuing with cross-examinati on. you are expecting that the prosecution to redirect after that, correct absolutely. >> yeah. of course. they get that option before we even maybe see who the next witness is redirected fact, it's very unclear, actually it david pecker will finish today. i mean, it is a full court today, so it's very likely he will, but we don't really quite know the timing just yet but we are waiting...
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for it, but i think it was both for david pecker. i think he was an associate and business person for with donald trump for a very long period of time and then came this crucial critical meeting in 2015, where they formulated this conspiracy to illegally or unlawfully allegedly us what the prosecution is going to say interfere with the election and it was all about the election at that point. and we know because one of the things he said was with the doorman that was not that we were not able to confirm that story. in fact, we debunked it, but had it been real, we would have released it after the election. it was very clear that what they were doing was about the election. and at that point when you're paying, wasn't to protect melania trump. it was about the right if it was then he wouldn't have released it after the election. he was doing these caching kills fine. but when it was about the election, those aren't when you're paying people. it's an in-kind donations and you have to declare that at a dangerous point there and asked hi
for it, but i think it was both for david pecker. i think he was an associate and business person for with donald trump for a very long period of time and then came this crucial critical meeting in 2015, where they formulated this conspiracy to illegally or unlawfully allegedly us what the prosecution is going to say interfere with the election and it was all about the election at that point. and we know because one of the things he said was with the doorman that was not that we were not able...
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money criminal case unfolds, tabloid executive david pecker has wrapped up a second day on the stand. as we're awaiting the judge's ruling on whether trump violated his gag order. are reporters and experts are standing by to break down all of today's most important developments and look ahead to what's next. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world i'm wolf blitzer with a special report in the situation room the trump trial today in our trial coverage tonight, former national enquirer executive, david pecker, details his efforts to quote, catch and kill negative stories about donald trump with the express goal of helping trump's first presidential campaign. the testimony getting to the heart of the prosecution's argument that trump illegally aspired to influence the 2016 election. cnn's kara scannell has all the breaking news from inside the courtroom explosive witness testimony from a tablet executive and former president donald trump's hush money trial on tuesday x national enquirer publisher david pecker, described acting as the eyes and ears of trump's
money criminal case unfolds, tabloid executive david pecker has wrapped up a second day on the stand. as we're awaiting the judge's ruling on whether trump violated his gag order. are reporters and experts are standing by to break down all of today's most important developments and look ahead to what's next. welcome to our viewers here in the united states and around the world i'm wolf blitzer with a special report in the situation room the trump trial today in our trial coverage tonight,...
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those are donald trump, david pecker would be alerted. he'd call michael cohen and asked michael cohen what to do. and michael cohen according to david pecker and will hear the cross-examine and what michael cohen has to say about this. but he would say well, let me call the boss and see what he wants to do with the karen mcdougal story with it? other stories. >> what do you want to do about this? >> ironically, this is the kind of scandal that the national enquirer, one of exposed in almost any other scenario. the enquirer had a history for all its flaws, for all of its faults of reporting on politicians on both sides of the aisle. for exposing scandals and controversies and polit politicians. >> words they didn't in this. >> example but instead pecker because he was go ahead, are long relationship with trump and saw a benefit to that enquirer decided to pick a horse, right aside to get in line with trump and create a pro-trump propaganda outlet, which is really what the enquirer was. but he's never fessed up to this until today in court
those are donald trump, david pecker would be alerted. he'd call michael cohen and asked michael cohen what to do. and michael cohen according to david pecker and will hear the cross-examine and what michael cohen has to say about this. but he would say well, let me call the boss and see what he wants to do with the karen mcdougal story with it? other stories. >> what do you want to do about this? >> ironically, this is the kind of scandal that the national enquirer, one of exposed...
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we're looking at your sketch of david pecker is testimony today. can you take us a little bit inside the room during this moment well, mr. pecker is very interesting a witness it's quite fascinating to hear about how they conspired to say awful things about anybody who was challenging donald trump for the presidency. >> he went after it mr. rubio, he went after ted cruz they were all sexual scandals. i think there was zero concerned about what was true or not true. they were just having a holhot which makes it kind of poetic justice that he's having to deal with this right now. >> interesting, i know you sketch trump in the e jean carroll defamation trial and his new york civil fraud trial as well. and you say he seems to have lost rank. a lot of his bravado since them, since then, tell us more about trump's demeanor in this courtroom from what you've observed over the past few days? >> i, mean, trump is basically still being treated like royalty. he has a procession that, you know, of secret service who follow him in and all of us are like being t
we're looking at your sketch of david pecker is testimony today. can you take us a little bit inside the room during this moment well, mr. pecker is very interesting a witness it's quite fascinating to hear about how they conspired to say awful things about anybody who was challenging donald trump for the presidency. >> he went after it mr. rubio, he went after ted cruz they were all sexual scandals. i think there was zero concerned about what was true or not true. they were just having a...
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this is conspiracy between david pecker, donald trump, and michael cohen. and that they all got together conspiracy requires two or more people to get together, have an agreement and the agreement is to do something unlawful. and what they're saying is what they were doing that was unlawful, was they were unlawfully trying to influence the election. so this is all part of the scheme. the criminal scheme, and they have set up that there was a meeting where this was explicitly discussed, right. so even though this was a matter of as you're saying, this is how things were done, that there was a meeting that they said, look, we're i'm running for president and this is what we're going to do. that's what the prosecution says happened. so pecker is not done yet. he comes back to the stand when trial resumes. so how do you think he will do under cross-examination without will be really any interesting test because he comes across as we've seen, very smooth and savvy. and let me just tell you what the facts are. he's never responded to the threats being attacked. t
this is conspiracy between david pecker, donald trump, and michael cohen. and that they all got together conspiracy requires two or more people to get together, have an agreement and the agreement is to do something unlawful. and what they're saying is what they were doing that was unlawful, was they were unlawfully trying to influence the election. so this is all part of the scheme. the criminal scheme, and they have set up that there was a meeting where this was explicitly discussed, right....
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so after david pecker, yes. so we don't know the exact order yet. we're playing that sort of day by day. of course, we will hear from michael cohen, one of the big questions will be to what extent is their testimony consistent or inconsistent with one another? we probably will hear from stormy daniels, the recipient of the allegedly criminally covered up payments. we also may hear from hope hicks, who was involved in the trump campaign's efforts to rebound after that really damaging access hollywood tape. and we have already begun to see the prosecution introduce financial checks. they've introduced some of them but through david pecker, we're going to see, among other things, copies of the checks that donald trump row and some of them he signed in order to reimburse michael cohen what the prosecution is going to try to do. laura, which we did all the time, is build a case that is a latticework or everything overlaps and supports one another we'll see if the defense lawyers can poke holes in that. >> well, i'll see le come on back. thank you so much
so after david pecker, yes. so we don't know the exact order yet. we're playing that sort of day by day. of course, we will hear from michael cohen, one of the big questions will be to what extent is their testimony consistent or inconsistent with one another? we probably will hear from stormy daniels, the recipient of the allegedly criminally covered up payments. we also may hear from hope hicks, who was involved in the trump campaign's efforts to rebound after that really damaging access...
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okay, we'll take you inside david pecker is testimony. the catch and kill scheme at the heart of this trial, and the gag order that donald trump may have just violated. >> again, tonight i'm laura coates live all right. >> david pecker took this stan for now, a second day today, he took the jury inside the august 2015 trump tower meeting with trump and michael cohen. now that was two months after donald trump came down, that escalator and announced that he was going to run for the white house when pecker testifies, of course, he says that's when the catch and kill scheme began. >> it goes inside the room where all of it happened, say quote, at that meeting, donald trump and michael cohen, they asked me, what can i do and what my magazines could do to help the campaign. >> and then tabloid boss said there was quite a lot he could actually do, quote, i said, what i would do is i would run or published positive stories hi, mr. trump, and i would publish negative stories about his opponents. i said i would be your ears and eyes, and boy, was
okay, we'll take you inside david pecker is testimony. the catch and kill scheme at the heart of this trial, and the gag order that donald trump may have just violated. >> again, tonight i'm laura coates live all right. >> david pecker took this stan for now, a second day today, he took the jury inside the august 2015 trump tower meeting with trump and michael cohen. now that was two months after donald trump came down, that escalator and announced that he was going to run for the...
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what was it about david pecker's testimony? >> you think? it's making him think if it's even necessary last week, you said he would testify. >> so i think that he he's he will throw whatever out whatever he wants to throw out there. right. >> don't i wouldn't read too much into it one day he's going to say he's testified and one de is got because he needs to defend himself the next day is going to say this case is bs and i don't need to testify because it's garbage. so you're going to hear that throughout the trial as especially as he absorbs the information day in and day out. >> i just i don't think you can give any any logical credence to the what he says about whether he testifies are not because i don't think i think at the end of the de is lawyers are gonna adamantly be against him testifying because there's a whole lot of stuff that's going to come out in the judge is going to allow it and he doesn't they're not going to want that in the public domain. standby. everyone, that very point figure out what the judge will actually limit te
what was it about david pecker's testimony? >> you think? it's making him think if it's even necessary last week, you said he would testify. >> so i think that he he's he will throw whatever out whatever he wants to throw out there. right. >> don't i wouldn't read too much into it one day he's going to say he's testified and one de is got because he needs to defend himself the next day is going to say this case is bs and i don't need to testify because it's garbage. so you're...
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they're going to attack the credibility of david pecker. the idea that he was that he was trying to avoid liability himself here by coming in and testifying. they're going to use all of those things. but really, when you go back to new york statue that they're relying on and they, they telegraph that nowhere in that statute doesn't reference campaign finance, right? >> and they're using, they're trying to bolster this argument that the federal election law prohibits it, and that states new york state law, how somehow applies to that. >> so you're going through two levels. >> and now that that is going to be what makes that a felony, that's a long way to go to get to get to that felony charge. and there's a whole lot more that needs to be shown in order to make the show that proof. because one foreign presence was never charged, the campaign never paid a fine. and while ami paid and agreed to that and michael cohen was charged and pled guilty. they're not allowed to tie michael cohen's guilty plea to trump for the drugs is the judge's origin
they're going to attack the credibility of david pecker. the idea that he was that he was trying to avoid liability himself here by coming in and testifying. they're going to use all of those things. but really, when you go back to new york statue that they're relying on and they, they telegraph that nowhere in that statute doesn't reference campaign finance, right? >> and they're using, they're trying to bolster this argument that the federal election law prohibits it, and that states...
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pecker, which david pecker explained very well what that is for the purpose of affecting the 2016 election, as opposed to for the purpose of protecting his family from embarrassment, it's the intent that's the issue. >> okay. so gag order now, there's a hearing scheduled for thursday to hear the legations of 14 violations of the gag order this has been delayed at least from some legal experts that we've discussed with. >> why is this taking so long they were first a few and then before those were settled, there was another grouping. >> what's the impact of the delay? >> you know, what if you're a cynic on this one which maybe i'm citing in this cynical the judge wants to get more examples before ruling on the gag order, right? even more. agree. just examples because at this point, really the judge could absolutely rural and i don't understand other than that, just trying to get more examples of how this gag order is violated again and again and again, so that the judge is upheld on appeal on any on and usage and what really is the impact of of a gag order or the consequence of it if the ju
pecker, which david pecker explained very well what that is for the purpose of affecting the 2016 election, as opposed to for the purpose of protecting his family from embarrassment, it's the intent that's the issue. >> okay. so gag order now, there's a hearing scheduled for thursday to hear the legations of 14 violations of the gag order this has been delayed at least from some legal experts that we've discussed with. >> why is this taking so long they were first a few and then...
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i raised david pecker, asieh, what he thought at the testimony asked the last time talked to david pecker, you just said that pecker was a nice guy. ladies and please, with the testimony, but he also talked about those critical immunity arguments. take a listen. >> we have a big case today. this the judges and on me to go. we have a big case in the supreme court or presidential immunity. a president he stab immunity if you don't have a unit, you just have a ceremonial president he also said that the supreme court justices were smart at one point, said, sounded like he was saying that they we're going to do the right thing or he believed that they would do the right thing. >> but again all of this, he's making his campaign stop because of the fact that he is in court now four days a week and they are trying to figure out ways to keep them engaged with voters. they believe that this is very important for him and they'd become resigned to the fact that this is what the next several weeks is going to look like. so today, they did this pre courts stop meeting with working class voters kristen.
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trump as he is listening to david pecker's testimony. and i have seen paula reid and kasie hunt here with me as you're waiting for this monumental day, just kinda, i mean, we talk about split-screen a lot, but this is really remarkable to see donald trump in a manhattan courthouse and also his attorneys, his other attorneys going into the supreme court and paula, i just a reminder the question that the justices had before that, which is whether and if so, to what extent does a former president enjoy? we presidential immunity from criminal prosecution for conduct alleged to involve official acts during his tenure in office. >> it is so wild to me, caitlin, that we are here on this question because in talking to trump's lawyers throughout the special counsel investigation, they would always say this is our strongest argument, but we're going to keep making it that what he did in the wake of the 2020 election to try to subvert the outcome that we're going to make. the argument that those were official acts because not only do we or client a
trump as he is listening to david pecker's testimony. and i have seen paula reid and kasie hunt here with me as you're waiting for this monumental day, just kinda, i mean, we talk about split-screen a lot, but this is really remarkable to see donald trump in a manhattan courthouse and also his attorneys, his other attorneys going into the supreme court and paula, i just a reminder the question that the justices had before that, which is whether and if so, to what extent does a former president...
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david pecker says, when mr. trump called me, he said to me the same. he asked me if i saw the stormy daniels interview with anderson cooper. i said, yes, i did. he said that we have an agreement with stormy daniels that she cannot mention my name or do anything like this in each time she breaches the agreement, it's $1 million penalty. and based on the interview with anderson cooper, stormy daniels, ols, donald trump, donald trump talking about himself 24 million josh steinglass says, that's what donald trump told you. pecker. that's what he told me i'm jeff. >> you recently interviewed stormy daniels. does she there is some money. she'll well, it's a desperate problem for stormy daniels when she was represented by michael avenatti of blessed memory suu donald trump on her behalf for defamation. that case was not only thrown out of court, but the judge in california awarded attorney's fees to donald trump because the judge said the case was frivolous those were assessed against the client. stormy daniels, not against the lawyer. that debt which has bee
david pecker says, when mr. trump called me, he said to me the same. he asked me if i saw the stormy daniels interview with anderson cooper. i said, yes, i did. he said that we have an agreement with stormy daniels that she cannot mention my name or do anything like this in each time she breaches the agreement, it's $1 million penalty. and based on the interview with anderson cooper, stormy daniels, ols, donald trump, donald trump talking about himself 24 million josh steinglass says, that's...
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former national enquirer publisher, david pecker, on the stand. one court begins left us with a cliffhanger just beginning to talk about karen mcdougal, the playboy play he squashed the story, the allegation she had that she had a relationship with donald trump in of course, as soon as core begins this morning, we could learn the judge's ruling in the gag order against donald trump, whether trump has violated it. cnn's kristen holmes, outside the court, within an hour things can get very interesting, kristen yeah, that's right. >> and actually donald trump did a campaign stop earlier this morning. he stopped by construction site where he's talked to construction workers as well as union members. and i asked him particularly about david pecker. when was last time he spoke to a beggar. remember the two of them used to be very close. he wouldn't answer that question. i asked what he thought of the testimony so far all he would say is that he believed that pecker was a good guy, that he's been nice to him. and then essentially walked away after answer
former national enquirer publisher, david pecker, on the stand. one court begins left us with a cliffhanger just beginning to talk about karen mcdougal, the playboy play he squashed the story, the allegation she had that she had a relationship with donald trump in of course, as soon as core begins this morning, we could learn the judge's ruling in the gag order against donald trump, whether trump has violated it. cnn's kristen holmes, outside the court, within an hour things can get very...
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she was paid $150,000 but they had apparently david pecker had an election attorney look at this. this deal was going on. >> i think right before the 2016 election as well. yeah. well, it the implication would be that there was no actual election law violation as a result of these types of deals. right. so he has a lawyer ticket over. apparently the lawyer blessed it. right. and the deal with stormy daniels is strictly shuffle actually very, very similar, right? so that's sort of the implication. i don't think it actually is that potent of an observation. i don't i doubt we're going to hear from that lawyer in the course of this trial, which would be necessary to actually make that useful. >> let's let's go to our attorneys outside the room right now. i'll start with bill brennan. what's your what's your big takeaway from today if anything or if you want to look at the week in general, if if any gloves were laid on mr. trump or not? >> jake, i really don't think so. i heard on kush layout a scenario and certainly he could be correct with regard to actions taken in furtherance of a
she was paid $150,000 but they had apparently david pecker had an election attorney look at this. this deal was going on. >> i think right before the 2016 election as well. yeah. well, it the implication would be that there was no actual election law violation as a result of these types of deals. right. so he has a lawyer ticket over. apparently the lawyer blessed it. right. and the deal with stormy daniels is strictly shuffle actually very, very similar, right? so that's sort of the...
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pecker says yes standard operating procedure, as you understand it? correct? david pecker says yes. and in fact, in another place and david becker says, the first time he heard the phrase catch and kill was from investigators when they were asking him about this, they say before this investigation started, you had not heard the phrase catch and kill david becker says, that's correct. i thought but that was a very skillful cross-examining and good read write and even, even better you should have taken that law school. >> but anyway but isn't the answer. so what ultimately you know, he he covered up for other celebrities. they weren't running for president. he didn't pay $150,000. >> what was covered in her right? bottles, schwarzenegger he ran for governor at some point, but we don't know when or what he did for arnold schwarzenegger. this was so different from all those other search i'm not saying you're wrong from what i was told them, people in the courtroom today, it was very similar what he did for arnold schwarzenegger. >> in fact, there was a lot of examination to today on, on
pecker says yes standard operating procedure, as you understand it? correct? david pecker says yes. and in fact, in another place and david becker says, the first time he heard the phrase catch and kill was from investigators when they were asking him about this, they say before this investigation started, you had not heard the phrase catch and kill david becker says, that's correct. i thought but that was a very skillful cross-examining and good read write and even, even better you should have...
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pecker donald trump has not attacked david pecker& i think it may be because he feels that pecker self has a little bit of power over him. you know, that there's a lot of stuff that pecker knows that maybe he's not talking about, but donald trump has attacked everybody else but he's left david pecker alone, which i think is kind of curious. >> you certainly don't want to do more harm, right? is they think about cross-examine and they think about taking on pecker. you don't want to do more harm and that so you might be running yeah, it's interesting you. >> a good point. all right, guys. thank you very, very much. just ahead. the other consequential case looming over donald trump with the us supreme court preparing to hear arguments tomorrow on his claim of presidential immunity from the federal law. january 6 case we'll be right back so this to playoffs, great teammates trust each other. >> we're going to do a trust falls, stand up, trust what you're certainly up doc told you here's a dummy kinda riva support your brain health. married janet. hey, eddie, know fraser, franck. frank bred
pecker donald trump has not attacked david pecker& i think it may be because he feels that pecker self has a little bit of power over him. you know, that there's a lot of stuff that pecker knows that maybe he's not talking about, but donald trump has attacked everybody else but he's left david pecker alone, which i think is kind of curious. >> you certainly don't want to do more harm, right? is they think about cross-examine and they think about taking on pecker. you don't want to do...
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and then hopefully they will maybe get into get from david pecker more information about why this was unique as opposed to something that was normal and as we talk about trump's case and the effort to help his campaign as opposed to just do and checkbook media that there's this had a different level of involvement a different purpose. that purpose being to interfere remember the election on curious. >> what do you think the trump legal defense team is going to try to do to help their client with david pecker. i mean, i think honestly their best defense on this front is i mean, they will do anything they can to diminish trump's personal involvement, to try to cross to try to limit packers testimony. but the fact of the matter is the catch and kill scheme is not the core criminal conduct. that's at issue here. the court cannot conduct is everything that follows it concerning payment to stormy daniels and in particular, how those payments were booked internally on trump's books and why, how and why those payments were booked so i expect the todd blanche and trump's lawyers, to the extent
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so we did still get some compelling testimony from the remainder of david pecker's testimony, as well as those two other witnesses. one thing that is clear from the wheat when it says that we heard from miss that there was this conspiracy he to get this caching kill scheme, the catch and kill scheme to affect the campaign, to effect the election. in terms of the last two witnesses, we got confirmation from the banker that yes. michael cohen did open up an account. it open a shell company in order to get payment to stormy daniels. that's as far as we got in terms of the longtime assistant, all we heard is that we got confirmation that donald trump did have the contact information for karen mcdougal, as well as stormy daniels, and that stormy daniels was the at trump plaza at least on one occasion, but nothing that really stood out that was so bombshell that will stand out too. jury documentary evidence that he produced sort of establishing the timeline and the importance of getting those payments done before the election that will be crucial, right? absolutely. the urgency. so we learn
so we did still get some compelling testimony from the remainder of david pecker's testimony, as well as those two other witnesses. one thing that is clear from the wheat when it says that we heard from miss that there was this conspiracy he to get this caching kill scheme, the catch and kill scheme to affect the campaign, to effect the election. in terms of the last two witnesses, we got confirmation from the banker that yes. michael cohen did open up an account. it open a shell company in...
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we have seen people walking down that and to know who david pecker is now and what donald trump is saying right there which is essentially, how is karen doing, is she going to shut up. >> later in the trial we will see checks that donald trump signed, according to the prosecution, to pay michael cole went back for the money he gave -- >> level photo in black and white and you feel it is historic and people talking about a hush money deal. >> and these checks were signed in the oval office while he was president. >> more of what we are learning from the courtroom. transcripts. and the definition of the oral argument and immunity, in a case they said we are writing a rule for the ages. her uncle's unhappy. i'm sensing an underlying issue. it's t-mobile. it started when we tried to get him under a new plan. but they they unexpectedly unraveled their “price lock” guarantee. which has made him, a bit... unruly. you called yourself the “un-carrier”. you sing about “price lock” on those commercials. “the price lock, the price lock...” so, if you could change the price, change the
we have seen people walking down that and to know who david pecker is now and what donald trump is saying right there which is essentially, how is karen doing, is she going to shut up. >> later in the trial we will see checks that donald trump signed, according to the prosecution, to pay michael cole went back for the money he gave -- >> level photo in black and white and you feel it is historic and people talking about a hush money deal. >> and these checks were signed in the...